Evidently Apostate

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  Do you trust a JW when it comes to $$$$?

  by William Penwell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well i thought there was one thing i could count on with my ex jw wife and that was she would not go back on her word.

  to make a long story short, after we were separated and i signed off on the marriage, my ex gave me her word that she would not go after my pension.

  well a few years later guess what?

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  Evidently Apostate

  so sorry, but you hit the nail on the head i trust almost noone with my green, especially family!
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  Does This Bother Any JW Apologists?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does it bother any jw apologists or lurking jws that charles russell, joseph rutherford, and the watchtower board members who backed them would all be disfellowshipped today for teaching what those men taught as truth?.

  does it bother any of you that you would be disfellowshipped today for believing what their followers would have been disfellowshipped for not believing?.

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  Evidently Apostate

  i wonder if they stopped using the phrase "advancing light" yet. that phrase does not apply to information that nullifies a previously held belief. they should come up with a new explanation like " light is a spectrum of color some more pronounced than others therefore it is logical to conclude some of our teachings might make some sense and most of them are just beyond your public school education so believe them cause we say so!"
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  they have started to shun my child. its working perfectly!

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sometimes control tactics backfire especially when directed to a mothers child.

  she is pissed bigtime at some in the hall who keep thier kids away from our son.

  she has seen the mental abuse before but this affects her and the maternal instinct kicks in.

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  Evidently Apostate

  flying high now, i have been working that angle, telling her i want our kids to have friends from both sides and to lose his jw friends would be a shame. i talked to one of them and got the impression his mom is enforcing this. i hope this kid realizes how pius his mother is acting. waiting on the jw inlaws forthcoming biased opinions on his hair. my FIL once said i looked like a bum because of a beard, he's a winner.
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  they have started to shun my child. its working perfectly!

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sometimes control tactics backfire especially when directed to a mothers child.

  she is pissed bigtime at some in the hall who keep thier kids away from our son.

  she has seen the mental abuse before but this affects her and the maternal instinct kicks in.

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  Evidently Apostate

  sometimes control tactics backfire especially when directed to a mothers child. she is pissed bigtime at some in the hall who keep thier kids away from our son. she has seen the mental abuse before but this affects her and the maternal instinct kicks in. my sons crime, he has let his hair grow long which was enough to create a problem with some of his friends jw parents who now prohibit thier association with our child. this has promted daily discussions and when she asks why this is happening. i am careful not to assign blame on the parents who we are friends with but have been telling her "its not thier fault the belief system of this religion encourages separation from the non conformist. and i think this is very unsettling for her. we also let our children have non jw friends as we have never believed children are bad. thankfully he still has loyal friends(non jw)
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  I HATE this religion

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so today was my first sunday meeting that i didn't go with my wife.

  as an update she has decided not to move out right now...because she doesn't have anywhere to go.

  but she is giving me the silent treatment.

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  Evidently Apostate

  very good self control. your son will love you no matter what you say, he probably forgot it 5 min after the conversation. your wife may be this way or even more brazen for awhile. you make your argument every time you smile and tell her you love her. hopefully she will see herself from your eyes.

  continue the fight
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  Any of you have one of these?

  by bottleofwater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do or did any of you ever have those super emotional brothers and sisters (typically older) who think that every little thing will cause armageddon?.

  example - when the pilot landed the plane on the hudson river... oh my god!

  it's a sign of armageddon!

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  Evidently Apostate

  one i know had a heart attack, survived and now tells every one god saved them. totally fixated on the supernatural . if i showed them a book/dvd with a witch on the cover they would freak. very stable elder too. NOT
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  Should/Can I turn them in?

  by AwSnap in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what are my options?

  i have recently found out that someone close to me is receiving medicaid and in the process of getting food stamps.

  this is so unfair and annoying.

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  Evidently Apostate

  they live in moms basement and collect food stamps but have no physical limitations just lazy. sounds like they are living the good life! lol let them enjoy thier pathetic life. sounds like karma at work already
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  looking for quote about research own religion

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am looking for some sort of quote to show the kids that its ok to investigate their own religion.

  something from a recent book or watchtower would be great!.

  like... nothing to fear, we have nothing to hide, truth can stand investigation, make sure of it foryourself sort of thing i guess!.

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  Evidently Apostate

  awake of 09 cant remember the month but the statement to not let family or others pressure you to search out other beliefs is worth looking for
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  Never Wake Up

  by brotherdan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just got back from an awesome time in maui.

  today we got a call from my fil.

  my mil has been in utah for the last week or so and found out that her family past was full of "demon activity".

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  Evidently Apostate

  dan,

  i too am desperate to help my wife see the falsehood in this cult. i have never thought of the religion i nievely accepted as truth 20 years ago was in fact a cult, now we all know what the truth is, but she dosent. my beautiful wife will look at me with this look of fear and disbelief sometimes when we have a deep discussion that shines the org in a negative light. i find i can only take the conversation so far and then she changes sometimes its only a look in her eyes but i know reasoning is done and to continue is futile. your wife has a defence mechanism that becomes aggresive the longer you debate WT logic. STAY OFF THE SUBJECT walk away man, it is not worth it . winning an argument should not be the goal, getting your family out is, keep that in mind always.i have felt like you at times that i may end up giving up and walking away, i sometimes start to realize she is never going to truly listen to me. i cannot make demands of her at those times, she has to see the org for its deceptive tactics. you can start your fade, i have and it is very slow and subtle. i have told my wife i will attend a couple sunday meetings a month to pacify those inthe hall and keep the kids from thinking too much. thats it i do not bring up WT doctrine to her or attemp to scale the ignorance wall if she comes at me a question. before you answer think to yourself is this an attack or is she genuine? she has been well trained to use leading questions. go have a beer instead of continuing a discussion that has no purpose. we have been taught that people at the door may have something change i thier life that may make them more receptive to the witnesses and to have patience,use that logic for now

  i thank this board for the people on it , not the ones that just witness bash but those like you, we just want our lives and our families

  peace
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  ITS JUST A POPSICLE!

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember something that happened to me a few years ago that reminded me of the programmed witnessing of a jw.

  i was out with a friend (a jw) going for a drive and he brings us to a home to meet a guy that was an amway salesman and my friend had been encouraging me to get involved with amway.

  " there was no way i was going to sell toothpaste" i told him.

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  Evidently Apostate

  jim, good article similar pressure tactics as the borg